very OT, but I'm watching it while here so...

[-megalithanod]

I call it the Fallwell defense.

Mention God, and some church is going to give you the support you want.

It is a shame that mental illness can't be determined and cured like a simple dermitological problem. But unfortunately, it is something that is always hidden beneasth the surface and only really can be determined until it is most times too late.

[chaserfan]

actually I do believe that her brother in law or something is a pastur at some church there and they are supporting her. I think she has to be insane to have done this to a degree, but I think she knew right from wrong since she called 911 and turned herself in right afterwards. she also never mentioned god when the cops showed up. just that she couldnt go out to the scene, that she couldnt take seeing what she'd done. sounds like the god defense just kind of left for a bit right after the crime.

I just hope that if she gets away with insanity, that she doesnt just walk free after they think she is stable again and I believe they said that is possible if not covicted of murder.

[DARTH POOH]

"Fallwell defense"
That's a very appropriate term Megalith... This is
yet another horror story of the type that seems to be all too commonplace these days. [img]frown.gif[/img]

[-megalithanod]

Yes, and it is a shame.

Do what you want - repent a little, then continue on with life as normal. I have run into way to many of them in my rather short life already.

I have my beliefs, and I believe that actions are louder than any words.

I always remember the bully that would smack kids on the playground and then yell "kidding!" to make it sound like it was an accident to the teachers. Same thing on grown up levels here i feel.

[chaserfan]

another thing that I was thinking is how horrible a way for those little boys to die. she actually told them to lay their heads on a rock and then smashed them with another. they had no reason not to listen to what mommy was telling them. they always complain about guns being a major problem, but look at this case. she used rocks. big kid, big rock and so on. something she had in the garden for decoration.

I cannot imagine the horror of the father when the police showed up and woke him up with the news he had gotten up when the fist baby in the crib was hit and started crying but the mother said she was changing a diaper and all was fine (why would she have lied? god told her elseways right?) Father went back to bed and she left the little one in a crib not dead, but very messed up. then took the other two out to the garden one at a time and killed them.

I dont care if the bitch is nuts or not, I hope someone in the jail or where ever she ends up kills her for this.

[DemonsAngel]

that has got to be the most fucked up thing ever!!! how is the husband reacting to all of this?

[chaserfan]

I was wondering that too, but as of yet they havent said anything about the father. the case started today and the opening arguments were the only thing they've shown so far so dont know if the husband is supporting her or not. I hope not. I know they said the fist witness, a cop that was first on scene, actually broke down cring on the stand this morning. usually cops can do alright on the stand, but appearantly when they showed the scene photos it got to him all over again.

I know I've been in charge of an ems scene where the mother tried to kill both kids and herself. we saved the little girl but not the mother and son and it really messed with my mind for a while. in fact I was the one working the little girl and when she told me her name I heard it as the same name as my daughter. when I wrote out the report, it wasnt even close! she lived, but cried for mommy all the way to the hosp with a bullet hole through her chest and out her back. if the mother woulndt have been dead, ....hell I dont know what I would have done

[DemonsAngel]

DAMN i don't see how you do it!!! i would probably be in jail by now!

[toymank]

man, that's crazy, a little other tidbits I want to mention, I belive it happened yesterday, a mother was doing something with a shotgun (I say something, for lack of a better word, cleaning, testing, whatever) when it 'accidentally" went off and killed her 1 year old, it could have been accidental, but I mean, just relating it to the gun control thing and other points in this thread


It just makes you wonder, what was the family like, why would the mother do it? And it makes me wonder about my family, or any family, and why something like this would happen...

If she can comprhend to make up a story to cover it up from her husband, I think she's competent enough to lie about "god telling her to do it"

[chaserfan]

I've had some really bad calls, in fact I'm known for having the worst luck and getting the dying kids on calls, and at that moment youre so focused on trying to save the kid you dont have time to do something. on the mother that shot the kids and herself, we thought they were all dead in the same room. made me want to just stomp the dead bitch on the floor, but then someone said "brian, this ones alive" and I had to go to work. no time to think anything but save the kid at that point. at least the mother was dead.

I've had other calls that suck like this if not worse involving kids let alone all the adult ones I've been on. and I dont know how many times, I've heard someone blame god or the devil for what they've done. Makes me sick.